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Mark Robinson at 6:48pm February 9
what happened to the rule of thirds. to balance, even asymmetrical balance. sorry but these are things i look for.. come on jj maybe some footprints on the snow… prettiful, but whats next?

It is not just the technical quality of photograph that should make it great but the contextualization of the piece in today's society. What is the piece saying? Is it making a statement? Plus the process is always more important than the outcome. The story behind this photograph is what makes it great. (this is all known as Goddard Speak in our world)

Mark Robinson at 7:10pm February 9
i understand, i speak bullshit as a second language, or third for that matter, but the ending is ALWAYS the most important i.e. the outcome of the process. ur giving in to the physical. the pretty… u need to stop thinking and let ur art think for u

Jj Love at 7:24pm February 9
No, the ending isn't always the most important, though it is important to me, the process is more important, you learn more in the process than you do at the end. I took a picture cause it was pretty. It was a release, and escape from the stress of what was going on in my life. Not every image needs to be a pheonix, especially when you are working through stuff.

Lauren Patton at 9:59am February 10
Plus… I like this photo because it leaves an entry way for the viewer… I can just see my little wienner dog trotting into the frame… Although I will probably flip it and elongate it. But that has more to do with picture book format and the fact that we as a society read from left to right.. Anywho I like this picture because the open space sparks imagination. And FYi there are foot prints. :P


he has no name (nothing darker than that. he cant remember because he =
has lived in soluitude so long he has forgotten it.=20
=20
he survives by growing his own fruits and veggies, he is a vegan because =
when he eats meat, he goes on a blood rampage.
=20
clean cut face, longish hair, one brown eye, one blue (was a twin but =
killed his brother in a blood rampage) no tats,=20
=20
didnt have parents, only a brother, refer to description
=20
he carries a dagger, an old broken watch (not a wrist watch)
=20
emotion: racked with guilt about the death of his brother
=20
=20

I need a male point of view. I'm creating a male character for my new
story, but I wanted some input. The character is basically a drifter in
a futuristic dystopian society. Everyone who has survived the depression
(Which isn't many) are mutants or loners. There isn't any real
civilazation, no community to speak of and everything is ruined. There
isn't any electricity, but things run on steam, water, and fire. Most
everyone that is left is wild, crazed and without much rational thought.
He stumbles into a deserted old factory town where he has his first
interaction with the main character. If you would (PLEASE!!!!!) answer
the following questions as if you were creating the character. You don't
have to write too much, Not that you would ;-p but give me enough detail
that I can get a sense or who he is.

* Name (Something dark):
* How does he survive:
* Physical Description: (eye color, hair color, distinguishing
features=E2EUR"scars, tattoos, what makes him/her stand out?)
* What does he carry with him:
* Family background: Are parents still living? What is the
character=E2EUR(tm)s relationship with mother, father, siblings?
* Goals: What does your character want most out of life other than
survival?
* Emotional status: What major problems is your character facing and
what is his or her reaction to those problems?
* Extra detail-fill in as needed=E2EUR"What would your character eat =
for
breakfast? What is his or her favorite song? What books are on his
bookshelf?

It would help me a lot if you don't mind :D

1st of all, FUCK MARTIN scorcese.

=20

THAT ALONE IS MORE THAN 5 WORDS

=20

MAYBE THE INTENT OF TV AS AN ART FORM IS TO "STRONGLY INFLUENCE" ANYONE =
UNABLE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES. ISNT THAT WHAT ARTY IS ABOUT? GETTING =
PEOPLE TO SEE UR SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT, TO FEEL WHAT U FEEL, SEE WHAT U =
SEE, KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW? THE IDEAISM OF ART THAT U SEE IS ONE THAT WAS =
BEAT INTO YOUR SKULL BY ONE DR LABODY. IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT THINGS ARE, =
U NEED TO THINK, BUT NOT JUST THINK, THINK LIKE A CHILD. VOID OF ALL =
INFLUINCE. NOW THINK TO YOUR SELF. WHAT IS ART? AND IF U COME UP WITH =
THAT SAME BULLSHIT DEF, U GAVE ME .. THEN I FELL SAD FOR YOU. THINK OF =
PEOPLE THAT USED ART TO STIMULTE THE MIND, LIKE ESCHER. DO U NOT FIND =
HIS WORKS ENTERTAINING? SO WHY CANT JENNA JAMESON STIMULATE THE MIND =
WITH NEW POSITIONS THAT SOMEONE THOUGHT WAS IMPOSSIBLE WHILE =
ENTERTAINING AS WELL?

=20

THATS ENOUGHT FOR NOW… EMAIL ME BACK?

________

From: JENNIFER LOVE [mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net]
Sent: Tue 2/24/2009 10:01 AM
To: Mark Robinson
Subject: Re: art or fart?

OK, are you deliberate,y being dense? I thought I taught you better than
this. There are different categories for things and art is typically a
category for things that are either VERY aesthetically pleasing, the
mona lisa, anything preraphealite, susperia… or it is something that
is making a profound statement, such as Pollocks action painting, sadie
bennings video art, merce cunninghams choreography, or it is something
that does both, like paintings by Dali, Christina ricci's acting,
scorcese's films but it is hardly ever something that was made for the
sole purpose of making money or entertaining the masses. Plus there has
to be intent. Independence Day was not made with the intent of creating
a thought provoking artwork that would change the world. It was made to
show off special effects, please the masses and bring in as much coin as
possible. TV shows are made with little to no thought involved in
creating something worthy, intelligent, intellectual or even socially
uplifting. TV for the most part, is made to control the population
through media. Art seeks to influence not control. granted again, this
is what my definition of art is. If yours is different, I'd love to hear
it… plus I'd like an email longer the three or four words… and I'd
like to know the answer to the questions I keep putting to you if
possible about porn and art.

"Mark Robinson" <moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm#moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm> 02/24/09 7:18 AM »>

why is it not art???

why is it not art???

NOW UR STUCK ON TV AS AN ARTFORM, THIS IS A TANGENT TO THE MAIN POINT =
OF THIS ARGUMENT. TAKE OFF THE BULLSHIT VISION GOGGLES FOR A SEC, AND U =
WILL SEE WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY. ANYTHING CAN BE INTERPRETED AS ART =
WITHOUT TRYING TO SEE IT THAT WAY. A DOG TAKING A SHIT ON A WELL CUT =
LAWN, ART SAYING FUCK THE POLICE. AN OLD WOMAN J WALKING, DEFFIANT UNTIL =
THE END. ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IS ART, IF U HAVE THE EYE FOR IT. THIS =
IS WHY I AM A PHOTOGRAPHER AND NOT AN ARTIST… I HAVE THE EYE TO =
CAPTURE A SECRET, BUT NO TALENT TO PAINT IT OF SCULPT IT.
=20
SO YES, A WOMAN GETTING GANGBANGED, I CAN MULTITASK WITH EASE.
=20
MASTURBATION, I CAN DO IT ALL BY MYSELF
=20
AND YES….FUCK MARTIN scorcese.

________

From: JENNIFER LOVE [mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net]
Sent: Tue 2/24/2009 11:53 AM
To: Mark Robinson
Subject: RE: art or fart?

An one other thing… Anything created by Joss Whedon, is totally NOT in
my generalization about TV. Joss whedon is a god among men

"Mark Robinson" <moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm#moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm> 02/24/09 11:30 AM »>

- Show quoted text -
1st of all, FUCK MARTIN scorcese.

THAT ALONE IS MORE THAN 5 WORDS

MAYBE THE INTENT OF TV AS AN ART FORM IS TO "STRONGLY INFLUENCE" ANYONE
UNABLE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES. ISNT THAT WHAT ARTY IS ABOUT? GETTING
PEOPLE TO SEE UR SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT, TO FEEL WHAT U FEEL, SEE WHAT U
SEE, KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW? THE IDEAISM OF ART THAT U SEE IS ONE THAT WAS
BEAT INTO YOUR SKULL BY ONE DR LABODY. IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT THINGS ARE,
U NEED TO THINK, BUT NOT JUST THINK, THINK LIKE A CHILD. VOID OF ALL
INFLUINCE. NOW THINK TO YOUR SELF. WHAT IS ART? AND IF U COME UP WITH
THAT SAME BULLSHIT DEF, U GAVE ME .. THEN I FELL SAD FOR YOU. THINK OF
PEOPLE THAT USED ART TO STIMULTE THE MIND, LIKE ESCHER. DO U NOT FIND
HIS WORKS ENTERTAINING? SO WHY CANT JENNA JAMESON STIMULATE THE MIND
WITH NEW POSITIONS THAT SOMEONE THOUGHT WAS IMPOSSIBLE WHILE
ENTERTAINING AS WELL?

THATS ENOUGHT FOR NOW… EMAIL ME BACK?

________

From: JENNIFER LOVE [mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net]
Sent: Tue 2/24/2009 10:01 AM
To: Mark Robinson
Subject: Re: art or fart?

OK, are you deliberate,y being dense? I thought I taught you better than
this. There are different categories for things and art is typically a
category for things that are either VERY aesthetically pleasing, the
mona lisa, anything preraphealite, susperia… or it is something that
is making a profound statement, such as Pollocks action painting, sadie
bennings video art, merce cunninghams choreography, or it is something
that does both, like paintings by Dali, Christina ricci's acting,
scorcese's films but it is hardly ever something that was made for the
sole purpose of making money or entertaining the masses. Plus there has
to be intent. Independence Day was not made with the intent of creating
a thought provoking artwork that would change the world. It was made to
show off special effects, please the masses and bring in as much coin as
possible. TV shows are made with little to no thought involved in
creating something worthy, intelligent, intellectual or even socially
uplifting. TV for the most part, is made to control the population
through media. Art seeks to influence not control. granted again, this
is what my definition of art is. If yours is different, I'd love to hear
it… plus I'd like an email longer the three or four words… and I'd
like to know the answer to the questions I keep putting to you if
possible about porn and art.

"Mark Robinson" <moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm#moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm> 02/24/09 7:18 AM »>

why is it not art???

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[mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tue 2/24/2009 11:53 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Mark Robinson<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: art or =
fart?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>=0A=
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<P><FONT size=3D2>An one other thing… Anything created by Joss Whedon, =
is totally NOT in<BR>my generalization about TV. Joss whedon is a god =
among men<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Mark Robinson" =
&lt;moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm#moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm&gt; 02/24/09 11:30 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>1st of =
all, FUCK MARTIN scorcese.<BR><BR><BR><BR>THAT ALONE IS MORE THAN 5 =
WORDS<BR><BR><BR><BR>MAYBE THE INTENT OF TV AS AN ART FORM IS TO =
"STRONGLY INFLUENCE" ANYONE<BR>UNABLE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES. ISNT THAT =
WHAT ARTY IS ABOUT? GETTING<BR>PEOPLE TO SEE UR SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT, TO =
FEEL WHAT U FEEL, SEE WHAT U<BR>SEE, KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW? THE IDEAISM OF =
ART THAT U SEE IS ONE THAT WAS<BR>BEAT INTO YOUR SKULL BY ONE DR LABODY. =
IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT THINGS ARE,<BR>U NEED TO THINK, BUT NOT JUST THINK, =
THINK LIKE A CHILD. VOID OF ALL<BR>INFLUINCE. NOW THINK TO YOUR SELF. =
WHAT IS ART? AND IF U COME UP WITH<BR>THAT SAME BULLSHIT DEF, U GAVE ME =
. THEN I FELL SAD FOR YOU. THINK OF<BR>PEOPLE THAT USED ART TO STIMULTE =
THE MIND, LIKE ESCHER. DO U NOT FIND<BR>HIS WORKS ENTERTAINING? SO WHY =
CANT JENNA JAMESON STIMULATE THE MIND<BR>WITH NEW POSITIONS THAT SOMEONE =
THOUGHT WAS IMPOSSIBLE WHILE<BR>ENTERTAINING AS =
WELL?<BR><BR><BR><BR>THATS ENOUGHT FOR NOW…&nbsp; EMAIL ME =
BACK?<BR><BR><BR>________<BR><BR>From: JENNIFER =
LOVE [<A =
href=3D"mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net">mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net</A=

art or fart?<BR><BR><BR><BR>OK, are you deliberate,y being dense? I =
thought I taught you better than<BR>this. There are different categories =
for things and art is typically a<BR>category for things that are either =
VERY aesthetically pleasing, the<BR>mona lisa, anything preraphealite, =
susperia… or it is something that<BR>is making a profound statement, =
such as Pollocks action painting, sadie<BR>bennings video art, merce =
cunninghams choreography, or it is something<BR>that does both, like =
paintings by Dali, Christina ricci's acting,<BR>scorcese's films but it =
is hardly ever something that was made for the<BR>sole purpose of making =
money or entertaining the masses. Plus there has<BR>to be intent. =
Independence Day was not made with the intent of creating<BR>a thought =
provoking artwork that would change the world. It was made to<BR>show =
off special effects, please the masses and bring in as much coin =
as<BR>possible. TV shows are made with little to no thought involved =
in<BR>creating something worthy, intelligent, intellectual or even =
socially<BR>uplifting. TV for the most part, is made to control the =
population<BR>through media. Art seeks to influence not control. granted =
again, this<BR>is what my definition of art is. If yours is different, =
I'd love to hear<BR>it… plus I'd like an email longer the three or =
four words… and I'd<BR>like to know the answer to the questions I keep =
putting to you if<BR>possible about porn and art.<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
"Mark Robinson" &lt;moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm#moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm&gt; 02/24/09 7:18 AM =
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>why is it not =
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WILL SEE WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY. ANYTHING CAN BE INTERPRETED AS ART
WITHOUT TRYING TO SEE IT THAT WAY. A DOG TAKING A SHIT ON A WELL CUT
LAWN, ART SAYING FUCK THE POLICE. AN OLD WOMAN J WALKING, DEFFIANT UNTIL
THE END. ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IS ART, IF U HAVE THE EYE FOR IT. THIS
IS WHY I AM A PHOTOGRAPHER AND NOT AN ARTIST… I HAVE THE EYE TO
CAPTURE A SECRET, BUT NO TALENT TO PAINT IT OF SCULPT IT.

SO YES, A WOMAN GETTING GANGBANGED, I CAN MULTITASK WITH EASE.

MASTURBATION, I CAN DO IT ALL BY MYSELF

AND YES….FUCK MARTIN scorcese.

________

From: JENNIFER LOVE [mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net]
Sent: Tue 2/24/2009 11:53 AM
To: Mark Robinson
Subject: RE: art or fart?

An one other thing… Anything created by Joss Whedon, is totally NOT in
my generalization about TV. Joss whedon is a god among men

"Mark Robinson" <moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm#moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm> 02/24/09 11:30 AM »>

- Show quoted text -
1st of all, FUCK MARTIN scorcese.

THAT ALONE IS MORE THAN 5 WORDS

MAYBE THE INTENT OF TV AS AN ART FORM IS TO "STRONGLY INFLUENCE" ANYONE
UNABLE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES. ISNT THAT WHAT ARTY IS ABOUT? GETTING
PEOPLE TO SEE UR SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT, TO FEEL WHAT U FEEL, SEE WHAT U
SEE, KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW? THE IDEAISM OF ART THAT U SEE IS ONE THAT WAS
BEAT INTO YOUR SKULL BY ONE DR LABODY. IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT THINGS ARE,
U NEED TO THINK, BUT NOT JUST THINK, THINK LIKE A CHILD. VOID OF ALL
INFLUINCE. NOW THINK TO YOUR SELF. WHAT IS ART? AND IF U COME UP WITH
THAT SAME BULLSHIT DEF, U GAVE ME .. THEN I FELL SAD FOR YOU. THINK OF
PEOPLE THAT USED ART TO STIMULTE THE MIND, LIKE ESCHER. DO U NOT FIND
HIS WORKS ENTERTAINING? SO WHY CANT JENNA JAMESON STIMULATE THE MIND
WITH NEW POSITIONS THAT SOMEONE THOUGHT WAS IMPOSSIBLE WHILE
ENTERTAINING AS WELL?

THATS ENOUGHT FOR NOW… EMAIL ME BACK?

________

From: JENNIFER LOVE [mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net]
Sent: Tue 2/24/2009 10:01 AM
To: Mark Robinson
Subject: Re: art or fart?

OK, are you deliberate,y being dense? I thought I taught you better than
this. There are different categories for things and art is typically a
category for things that are either VERY aesthetically pleasing, the
mona lisa, anything preraphealite, susperia… or it is something that
is making a profound statement, such as Pollocks action painting, sadie
bennings video art, merce cunninghams choreography, or it is something
that does both, like paintings by Dali, Christina ricci's acting,
scorcese's films but it is hardly ever something that was made for the
sole purpose of making money or entertaining the masses. Plus there has
to be intent. Independence Day was not made with the intent of creating
a thought provoking artwork that would change the world. It was made to
show off special effects, please the masses and bring in as much coin as
possible. TV shows are made with little to no thought involved in
creating something worthy, intelligent, intellectual or even socially
uplifting. TV for the most part, is made to control the population
through media. Art seeks to influence not control. granted again, this
is what my definition of art is. If yours is different, I'd love to hear
it… plus I'd like an email longer the three or four words… and I'd
like to know the answer to the questions I keep putting to you if
possible about porn and art.

"Mark Robinson" <moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm#moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm> 02/24/09 7:18 AM »>

why is it not art???

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<P><FONT size=3D2>An one other thing… Anything created by Joss Whedon, =
is totally NOT in<BR>my generalization about TV. Joss whedon is a god =
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t; 02/24/09 11:30 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>1st of all, FUCK MARTIN scorcese.<BR><=
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OF TV AS AN ART FORM IS TO "STRONGLY INFLUENCE" ANYONE<BR>UNABLE TO THINK =
FOR THEMSELVES. ISNT THAT WHAT ARTY IS ABOUT? GETTING<BR>PEOPLE TO SEE UR =
SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT, TO FEEL WHAT U FEEL, SEE WHAT U<BR>SEE, KNOW WHAT =
YOU KNOW? THE IDEAISM OF ART THAT U SEE IS ONE THAT WAS<BR>BEAT INTO YOUR =
SKULL BY ONE DR LABODY. IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT THINGS ARE,<BR>U NEED TO =
THINK, BUT NOT JUST THINK, THINK LIKE A CHILD. VOID OF ALL<BR>INFLUINCE. =
NOW THINK TO YOUR SELF. WHAT IS ART? AND IF U COME UP WITH<BR>THAT SAME =
BULLSHIT DEF, U GAVE ME .. THEN I FELL SAD FOR YOU. THINK OF<BR>PEOPLE =
THAT USED ART TO STIMULTE THE MIND, LIKE ESCHER. DO U NOT FIND<BR>HIS =
WORKS ENTERTAINING? SO WHY CANT JENNA JAMESON STIMULATE THE MIND<BR>WITH =
NEW POSITIONS THAT SOMEONE THOUGHT WAS IMPOSSIBLE WHILE<BR>ENTERTAINING AS =
WELL?<BR><BR><BR><BR>THATS ENOUGHT FOR NOW…&nbsp; EMAIL ME BACK?<BR><BR><=
BR>________<BR><BR>From: JENNIFER LOVE [<A =
href=3D"mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net">mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net</A>]=
<BR>Sent: Tue 2/24/2009 10:01 AM<BR>To: Mark Robinson<BR>Subject: Re: art =
or fart?<BR><BR><BR><BR>OK, are you deliberate,y being dense? I thought I =
taught you better than<BR>this. There are different categories for things =
and art is typically a<BR>category for things that are either VERY =
aesthetically pleasing, the<BR>mona lisa, anything preraphealite, =
susperia… or it is something that<BR>is making a profound statement, =
such as Pollocks action painting, sadie<BR>bennings video art, merce =
cunninghams choreography, or it is something<BR>that does both, like =
paintings by Dali, Christina ricci's acting,<BR>scorcese's films but it is =
hardly ever something that was made for the<BR>sole purpose of making =
money or entertaining the masses. Plus there has<BR>to be intent. =
Independence Day was not made with the intent of creating<BR>a thought =
provoking artwork that would change the world. It was made to<BR>show off =
special effects, please the masses and bring in as much coin as<BR>possible=
. TV shows are made with little to no thought involved in<BR>creating =
something worthy, intelligent, intellectual or even socially<BR>uplifting. =
TV for the most part, is made to control the population<BR>through media. =
Art seeks to influence not control. granted again, this<BR>is what my =
definition of art is. If yours is different, I'd love to hear<BR>it… =
plus I'd like an email longer the three or four words… and I'd<BR>like =
to know the answer to the questions I keep putting to you if<BR>possible =
about porn and art.<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Mark Robinson" &lt;mrobinson@mount=
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ok… ur not going to like this, but i AM agreeing with you…
=20
we are dependant on air…. without it we will die, but if we did not =
need it, would we still use it? to be completely independant is =
something i fear human kind will never be strong enough to be.
=20
why was the phantom of the opera a man? society says that feamles use =
their beauty as a tool, so it being a woman might be better…. but u =
dont want people saying it is a reflection of u… or do u??

________

From: JENNIFER LOVE [mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net]
Sent: Tue 2/17/2009 10:47 AM
To: Mark Robinson
Subject: If you told people here I talk this much they'd never =
believeyou

Please don=E2EUR(tm)t stop your side of the argument, because of me =
arguing
back… that=E2EUR(tm)s kind of the point…

So for you addiction is just another form of co-dependency. Having to
rely on something else to get through the day, but does that really make
you a weaker person? Everyone depends on something to live, yes, some of
it is needed, really neded, air, food, water, but living without those
things would make us weaker, without a doubt, I don=E2EUR(tm)t think =
anyone would
argue that too much… there=E2EUR(tm)s an argument there for fasting… =
so I=E2EUR(tm)ll
say air and water. Looking at these things nt as a necessity… lets
take the viewpoint of say… an alien.A lifeforce that reproduces
asexual, feeds of it=E2EUR(tm)s own decaying matter and regenerates… A
jellyfish with thought (And without the water) this entity does not need
anything outside of it self, it is completely self sufficient…. =
We=E2EUR(tm)ll
call him george

So to him, our need for air and water become a weakness, an addiction.
We can not simply exist, we have to breathe and drink. Does that truly
make us weaker than him? Are we shackled by our need to breathe? If I am
dependent upon chocolate to get me through my day, but the chocolate
makes me happier, healthier, easier to get along with… is it shackels?
But if the chocolate makes me fat, laszy and depressed, sudenly it is
shackles…. we are still talkin gin the positive and negative sense. If
addiction were a person, who would he be? What would he look like? How
do we identify addiction true addiction without prescribing these
attributes of negative/positive… Why does it have to be shackles? My
does it have to be co-dependent. We are all dependent upon something,
espcially when viewed from georges perspective.

but from a different alien perspective, rupert, who depends on
everything else, completely and totally, a parasite, we would be quite
strong, even those of us addicted to many different things… =
it=E2EUR(tm)s all
matter of perspective, which is what I=E2EUR(tm)m trying to get through. =
I=E2EUR(tm)m
trying to go away from everyones perspective and focus on the identity
of addiction… Dn=E2EUR(tm)t know if that makes sense. it=E2EUR(tm)s =
just the only way I
know to explain it right now…. which is exactly what I am working
through.

Addicted to the =E2EURoegood=E2EUR=9D things doesn=E2EUR(tm)t always =
make you stronger. You can
hurt yourself with too much exercise, if you create to the point of
loosing touch with reality… THink vangogh… you can always overdo it,
no matter what but again this is a matter of perspcetive. On of the
reasons I hole back in my creative process is that fear of loosing
myself in my art and being unable to come back. I have felt the pull of
that world, I have stepped into it… I don=E2EUR(tm)t want to loose =
myself… bu
there I go again, why can=E2EUR(tm)t that be a part of who I am without =
it being
a negative thing? Because of societal views. break out of the box you
were raised in and see something from a different point of view… that
was not direce at you, but rather society.

I do not question another artists process to tell them something is
wrong, only to ask why, it is important to ask yourself why and find the
answer…. Why is the deformed one a man, not that it=E2EUR(tm)s wrong, =
but know
why it has to be that way, rather than taking the cop out and saying, it
just has to be… there is a process there you are not realizing

The camera, was fine until it fell off willows arm into the river. =
I=E2EUR(tm)m
have no idea what=E2EUR(tm)s wrong with it, it=E2EUR(tm)s a canon power =
shot and I used it
a pretty good bit for awhile… baby is just to big to take out
sometimes. I have a friend who owns a pawn shop, I=E2EUR=9Dll ask if he =
has
anything in that pretty cheap… alot of times he=E2EUR(tm)ll give me =
stuf for
free if they don=E2EUR(tm)t think they=E2EUR(tm)ll make any money on it. =
ever consider
doing video work? I might have a video camera you could hold onto for
awhile

Ok in the several hours since I started this email I had to do testing
for the NC writing test… and since I only do special modifications I
only had one student. So while she was tested I drew up two sketches,
one of your idea, one of mine. I won=E2EUR(tm)t be able to show you =
either till I
can get home and take a pic or scan an upload to the inernet, but still
I have to images to show you later…

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without a doubt, I don=E2&#8364;&#8482;t think anyone would<BR>argue =
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can not simply exist, we have to breathe and drink. Does that =
truly<BR>make us weaker than him? Are we shackled by our need to =
breathe? If I am<BR>dependent upon chocolate to get me through my day, =
but the chocolate<BR>makes me happier, healthier, easier to get along =
with… is it shackels?<BR>But if the chocolate makes me fat, laszy and =
depressed, sudenly it is<BR>shackles…. we are still talkin gin the =
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vangogh… you can always overdo it,<BR>no matter what but again this is =
a matter of perspcetive. On of the<BR>reasons I hole back in my creative =
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come back. I have felt the pull of<BR>that world, I have stepped into =
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it=E2&#8364;&#8482;s wrong, but know<BR>why it has to be that way, =
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mine. I won=E2&#8364;&#8482;t be able to show you either till I<BR>can =
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ok… ur not going to like this, but i AM agreeing with you…

we are dependant on air…. without it we will die, but if we did not
need it, would we still use it? to be completely independant is
something i fear human kind will never be strong enough to be.

why was the phantom of the opera a man? society says that feamles use
their beauty as a tool, so it being a woman might be better…. but u
dont want people saying it is a reflection of u… or do u??

________

From: JENNIFER LOVE [mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net]
Sent: Tue 2/17/2009 10:47 AM
To: Mark Robinson
Subject: If you told people here I talk this much they'd never
believeyou

Please donâEUR(tm)t stop your side of the argument, because of me
arguing
back… thatâEUR(tm)s kind of the point…

So for you addiction is just another form of co-dependency. Having to
rely on something else to get through the day, but does that really make
you a weaker person? Everyone depends on something to live, yes, some of
it is needed, really neded, air, food, water, but living without those
things would make us weaker, without a doubt, I donâEUR(tm)t think
anyone would
argue that too much… thereâEUR(tm)s an argument there for fasting…
so IâEUR(tm)ll
say air and water. Looking at these things nt as a necessity… lets
take the viewpoint of say… an alien.A lifeforce that reproduces
asexual, feeds of itâEUR(tm)s own decaying matter and regenerates… A
jellyfish with thought (And without the water) this entity does not need
anything outside of it self, it is completely self sufficient….
WeâEUR(tm)ll
call him george

So to him, our need for air and water become a weakness, an addiction.
We can not simply exist, we have to breathe and drink. Does that truly
make us weaker than him? Are we shackled by our need to breathe? If I am
dependent upon chocolate to get me through my day, but the chocolate
makes me happier, healthier, easier to get along with… is it shackels?
But if the chocolate makes me fat, laszy and depressed, sudenly it is
shackles…. we are still talkin gin the positive and negative sense. If
addiction were a person, who would he be? What would he look like? How
do we identify addiction true addiction without prescribing these
attributes of negative/positive… Why does it have to be shackles? My
does it have to be co-dependent. We are all dependent upon something,
espcially when viewed from georges perspective.

but from a different alien perspective, rupert, who depends on
everything else, completely and totally, a parasite, we would be quite
strong, even those of us addicted to many different things…
itâEUR(tm)s all
matter of perspective, which is what IâEUR(tm)m trying to get through.
IâEUR(tm)m
trying to go away from everyones perspective and focus on the identity
of addiction… DnâEUR(tm)t know if that makes sense. itâEUR(tm)s just
the only way I
know to explain it right now…. which is exactly what I am working
through.

Addicted to the âEURoegoodâEUR* things doesnâEUR(tm)t always make you
stronger. You can
hurt yourself with too much exercise, if you create to the point of
loosing touch with reality… THink vangogh… you can always overdo it,
no matter what but again this is a matter of perspcetive. On of the
reasons I hole back in my creative process is that fear of loosing
myself in my art and being unable to come back. I have felt the pull of
that world, I have stepped into it… I donâEUR(tm)t want to loose
myself… bu
there I go again, why canâEUR(tm)t that be a part of who I am without it
being
a negative thing? Because of societal views. break out of the box you
were raised in and see something from a different point of view… that
was not direce at you, but rather society.

I do not question another artists process to tell them something is
wrong, only to ask why, it is important to ask yourself why and find the
answer…. Why is the deformed one a man, not that itâEUR(tm)s wrong,
but know
why it has to be that way, rather than taking the cop out and saying, it
just has to be… there is a process there you are not realizing

The camera, was fine until it fell off willows arm into the river.
IâEUR(tm)m
have no idea whatâEUR(tm)s wrong with it, itâEUR(tm)s a canon power shot
and I used it
a pretty good bit for awhile… baby is just to big to take out
sometimes. I have a friend who owns a pawn shop, IâEUR*ll ask if he has
anything in that pretty cheap… alot of times heâEUR(tm)ll give me stuf
for
free if they donâEUR(tm)t think theyâEUR(tm)ll make any money on it.
ever consider
doing video work? I might have a video camera you could hold onto for
awhile

Ok in the several hours since I started this email I had to do testing
for the NC writing test… and since I only do special modifications I
only had one student. So while she was tested I drew up two sketches,
one of your idea, one of mine. I wonâEUR(tm)t be able to show you either
till I
can get home and take a pic or scan an upload to the inernet, but still
I have to images to show you later…

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living without those<BR>things would make us weaker, without a doubt, I =
don=E2&#8364;&#8482;t think anyone would<BR>argue that too much… =
there=E2&#8364;&#8482;s an argument there for fasting… so I=E2&#8364;&#84=
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Are we shackled by our need to breathe? If I am<BR>dependent upon =
chocolate to get me through my day, but the chocolate<BR>makes me happier, =
healthier, easier to get along with… is it shackels?<BR>But if the =
chocolate makes me fat, laszy and depressed, sudenly it is<BR>shackles…. =
we are still talkin gin the positive and negative sense. If<BR>addiction =
were a person, who would he be? What would he look like? How<BR>do we =
identify addiction true addiction without prescribing these<BR>attributes =
of negative/positive… Why does it have to be shackles? My<BR>does it =
have to be co-dependent. We are all dependent upon something,<BR>espcially =
when viewed from georges perspective.<BR><BR>but from a different alien =
perspective, rupert, who depends on<BR>everything else, completely and =
totally, a parasite, we would be quite<BR>strong, even those of us =
addicted to many different things… it=E2&#8364;&#8482;s all<BR>matter of =
perspective, which is what I=E2&#8364;&#8482;m trying to get through. =
I=E2&#8364;&#8482;m<BR>trying to go away from everyones perspective and =
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creative process is that fear of loosing<BR>myself in my art and being =
unable to come back. I have felt the pull of<BR>that world, I have stepped =
into it… I don=E2&#8364;&#8482;t want to loose myself… bu<BR>there I =
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Why is the deformed one a man, not that it=E2&#8364;&#8482;s wrong, but =
know<BR>why it has to be that way, rather than taking the cop out and =
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the NC writing test… and since I only do special modifications I<BR>only =
had one student. So while she was tested I drew up two sketches,<BR>one of =
your idea, one of mine. I won=E2&#8364;&#8482;t be able to show you either =
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From: "Mark Robinson" <moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm#moc.eriatnuom|nosniborm>
To: "JENNIFER LOVE" <ten.sloohcsnilpud|evolj#ten.sloohcsnilpud|evolj>

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and yes, would love to get paid to do video work, but where>? weddingds? =
done those… after they get it they never try to paid what we agree… =
not my cup of tea. iv'e even done a bar mitzva… LOVED those… but i =
didnt do a good quality
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From: JENNIFER LOVE [mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net]
Sent: Tue 2/17/2009 10:47 AM
To: Mark Robinson
Subject: If you told people here I talk this much they'd never =
believeyou

Please don=E2EUR(tm)t stop your side of the argument, because of me =
arguing
back… that=E2EUR(tm)s kind of the point…

So for you addiction is just another form of co-dependency. Having to
rely on something else to get through the day, but does that really make
you a weaker person? Everyone depends on something to live, yes, some of
it is needed, really neded, air, food, water, but living without those
things would make us weaker, without a doubt, I don=E2EUR(tm)t think =
anyone would
argue that too much… there=E2EUR(tm)s an argument there for fasting… =
so I=E2EUR(tm)ll
say air and water. Looking at these things nt as a necessity… lets
take the viewpoint of say… an alien.A lifeforce that reproduces
asexual, feeds of it=E2EUR(tm)s own decaying matter and regenerates… A
jellyfish with thought (And without the water) this entity does not need
anything outside of it self, it is completely self sufficient…. =
We=E2EUR(tm)ll
call him george

So to him, our need for air and water become a weakness, an addiction.
We can not simply exist, we have to breathe and drink. Does that truly
make us weaker than him? Are we shackled by our need to breathe? If I am
dependent upon chocolate to get me through my day, but the chocolate
makes me happier, healthier, easier to get along with… is it shackels?
But if the chocolate makes me fat, laszy and depressed, sudenly it is
shackles…. we are still talkin gin the positive and negative sense. If
addiction were a person, who would he be? What would he look like? How
do we identify addiction true addiction without prescribing these
attributes of negative/positive… Why does it have to be shackles? My
does it have to be co-dependent. We are all dependent upon something,
espcially when viewed from georges perspective.

but from a different alien perspective, rupert, who depends on
everything else, completely and totally, a parasite, we would be quite
strong, even those of us addicted to many different things… =
it=E2EUR(tm)s all
matter of perspective, which is what I=E2EUR(tm)m trying to get through. =
I=E2EUR(tm)m
trying to go away from everyones perspective and focus on the identity
of addiction… Dn=E2EUR(tm)t know if that makes sense. it=E2EUR(tm)s =
just the only way I
know to explain it right now…. which is exactly what I am working
through.

Addicted to the =E2EURoegood=E2EUR=9D things doesn=E2EUR(tm)t always =
make you stronger. You can
hurt yourself with too much exercise, if you create to the point of
loosing touch with reality… THink vangogh… you can always overdo it,
no matter what but again this is a matter of perspcetive. On of the
reasons I hole back in my creative process is that fear of loosing
myself in my art and being unable to come back. I have felt the pull of
that world, I have stepped into it… I don=E2EUR(tm)t want to loose =
myself… bu
there I go again, why can=E2EUR(tm)t that be a part of who I am without =
it being
a negative thing? Because of societal views. break out of the box you
were raised in and see something from a different point of view… that
was not direce at you, but rather society.

I do not question another artists process to tell them something is
wrong, only to ask why, it is important to ask yourself why and find the
answer…. Why is the deformed one a man, not that it=E2EUR(tm)s wrong, =
but know
why it has to be that way, rather than taking the cop out and saying, it
just has to be… there is a process there you are not realizing

The camera, was fine until it fell off willows arm into the river. =
I=E2EUR(tm)m
have no idea what=E2EUR(tm)s wrong with it, it=E2EUR(tm)s a canon power =
shot and I used it
a pretty good bit for awhile… baby is just to big to take out
sometimes. I have a friend who owns a pawn shop, I=E2EUR=9Dll ask if he =
has
anything in that pretty cheap… alot of times he=E2EUR(tm)ll give me =
stuf for
free if they don=E2EUR(tm)t think they=E2EUR(tm)ll make any money on it. =
ever consider
doing video work? I might have a video camera you could hold onto for
awhile

Ok in the several hours since I started this email I had to do testing
for the NC writing test… and since I only do special modifications I
only had one student. So while she was tested I drew up two sketches,
one of your idea, one of mine. I won=E2EUR(tm)t be able to show you =
either till I
can get home and take a pic or scan an upload to the inernet, but still
I have to images to show you later…

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AM<BR><B>To:</B> Mark Robinson<BR><B>Subject:</B> If you told people =
here I talk this much they'd never believeyou<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>=0A=
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<P><FONT size=3D2>Please don=E2&#8364;&#8482;t stop your side of the =
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of the point…<BR><BR>So for you addiction is just another form of =
co-dependency. Having to<BR>rely on something else to get through the =
day, but does that really make<BR>you a weaker person? Everyone depends =
on something to live, yes, some of<BR>it is needed, really neded, air, =
food, water, but living without those<BR>things would make us weaker, =
without a doubt, I don=E2&#8364;&#8482;t think anyone would<BR>argue =
that too much… there=E2&#8364;&#8482;s an argument there for =
fasting… so I=E2&#8364;&#8482;ll<BR>say air and water. Looking at =
these things nt as a necessity… lets<BR>take the viewpoint of say… =
an alien.A lifeforce that reproduces<BR>asexual, feeds of =
it=E2&#8364;&#8482;s own decaying matter and regenerates… =
A<BR>jellyfish with thought (And without the water) this entity does not =
need<BR>anything outside of it self, it is completely self =
sufficient…. We=E2&#8364;&#8482;ll<BR>call him george<BR><BR>So to =
him, our need for air and water become a weakness, an addiction.<BR>We =
can not simply exist, we have to breathe and drink. Does that =
truly<BR>make us weaker than him? Are we shackled by our need to =
breathe? If I am<BR>dependent upon chocolate to get me through my day, =
but the chocolate<BR>makes me happier, healthier, easier to get along =
with… is it shackels?<BR>But if the chocolate makes me fat, laszy and =
depressed, sudenly it is<BR>shackles…. we are still talkin gin the =
positive and negative sense. If<BR>addiction were a person, who would he =
be? What would he look like? How<BR>do we identify addiction true =
addiction without prescribing these<BR>attributes of =
negative/positive… Why does it have to be shackles? My<BR>does it have =
to be co-dependent. We are all dependent upon something,<BR>espcially =
when viewed from georges perspective.<BR><BR>but from a different alien =
perspective, rupert, who depends on<BR>everything else, completely and =
totally, a parasite, we would be quite<BR>strong, even those of us =
addicted to many different things… it=E2&#8364;&#8482;s all<BR>matter =
of perspective, which is what I=E2&#8364;&#8482;m trying to get through. =
I=E2&#8364;&#8482;m<BR>trying to go away from everyones perspective and =
focus on the identity<BR>of addiction… Dn=E2&#8364;&#8482;t know if =
that makes sense. it=E2&#8364;&#8482;s just the only way I<BR>know to =
explain it right now…. which is exactly what I am =
working<BR>through.<BR><BR>Addicted to the =
=E2&#8364;&#339;good=E2&#8364;=9D things doesn=E2&#8364;&#8482;t always =
make you stronger. You can<BR>hurt yourself with too much exercise, if =
you create to the point of<BR>loosing touch with reality… THink =
vangogh… you can always overdo it,<BR>no matter what but again this is =
a matter of perspcetive. On of the<BR>reasons I hole back in my creative =
process is that fear of loosing<BR>myself in my art and being unable to =
come back. I have felt the pull of<BR>that world, I have stepped into =
it… I don=E2&#8364;&#8482;t want to loose myself… bu<BR>there I go =
again, why can=E2&#8364;&#8482;t that be a part of who I am without it =
being<BR>a negative thing? Because of societal views. break out of the =
box you<BR>were raised in and see something from a different point of =
view… that<BR>was not direce at you, but rather society.<BR><BR>I do =
not question another artists process to tell them something is<BR>wrong, =
only to ask why, it is important to ask yourself why and find =
the<BR>answer…. Why is the deformed one a man, not that =
it=E2&#8364;&#8482;s wrong, but know<BR>why it has to be that way, =
rather than taking the cop out and saying, it<BR>just has to be… there =
is a process there you are not realizing<BR><BR>The camera, was fine =
until it fell off willows arm into the river. =
I=E2&#8364;&#8482;m<BR>have no idea what=E2&#8364;&#8482;s wrong with =
it, it=E2&#8364;&#8482;s a canon power shot and I used it<BR>a pretty =
good bit for awhile… baby is just to big to take out<BR>sometimes. I =
have a friend who owns a pawn shop, I=E2&#8364;=9Dll ask if he =
has<BR>anything in that pretty cheap… alot of times =
he=E2&#8364;&#8482;ll give me stuf for<BR>free if they =
don=E2&#8364;&#8482;t think they=E2&#8364;&#8482;ll make any money on =
it. ever consider<BR>doing video work? I might have a video camera you =
could hold onto for<BR>awhile<BR><BR>Ok in the several hours since I =
started this email I had to do testing<BR>for the NC writing test… and =
since I only do special modifications I<BR>only had one student. So =
while she was tested I drew up two sketches,<BR>one of your idea, one of =
mine. I won=E2&#8364;&#8482;t be able to show you either till I<BR>can =
get home and take a pic or scan an upload to the inernet, but still<BR>I =
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and yes, would love to get paid to do video work, but where>? weddingds?
done those… after they get it they never try to paid what we agree…
not my cup of tea. iv'e even done a bar mitzva… LOVED those… but i
didnt do a good quality
- Show quoted text -

________

From: JENNIFER LOVE [mailto:jlove@duplinschools.net]
Sent: Tue 2/17/2009 10:47 AM
To: Mark Robinson
Subject: If you told people here I talk this much they'd never
believeyou

Please donâEUR(tm)t stop your side of the argument, because of me
arguing
back… thatâEUR(tm)s kind of the point…

So for you addiction is just another form of co-dependency. Having to
rely on something else to get through the day, but does that really make
you a weaker person? Everyone depends on something to live, yes, some of
it is needed, really neded, air, food, water, but living without those
things would make us weaker, without a doubt, I donâEUR(tm)t think
anyone would
argue that too much… thereâEUR(tm)s an argument there for fasting…
so IâEUR(tm)ll
say air and water. Looking at these things nt as a necessity… lets
take the viewpoint of say… an alien.A lifeforce that reproduces
asexual, feeds of itâEUR(tm)s own decaying matter and regenerates… A
jellyfish with thought (And without the water) this entity does not need
anything outside of it self, it is completely self sufficient….
WeâEUR(tm)ll
call him george

So to him, our need for air and water become a weakness, an addiction.
We can not simply exist, we have to breathe and drink. Does that truly
make us weaker than him? Are we shackled by our need to breathe? If I am
dependent upon chocolate to get me through my day, but the chocolate
makes me happier, healthier, easier to get along with… is it shackels?
But if the chocolate makes me fat, laszy and depressed, sudenly it is
shackles…. we are still talkin gin the positive and negative sense. If
addiction were a person, who would he be? What would he look like? How
do we identify addiction true addiction without prescribing these
attributes of negative/positive… Why does it have to be shackles? My
does it have to be co-dependent. We are all dependent upon something,
espcially when viewed from georges perspective.

but from a different alien perspective, rupert, who depends on
everything else, completely and totally, a parasite, we would be quite
strong, even those of us addicted to many different things…
itâEUR(tm)s all
matter of perspective, which is what IâEUR(tm)m trying to get through.
IâEUR(tm)m
trying to go away from everyones perspective and focus on the identity
of addiction… DnâEUR(tm)t know if that makes sense. itâEUR(tm)s just
the only way I
know to explain it right now…. which is exactly what I am working
through.

Addicted to the âEURoegoodâEUR* things doesnâEUR(tm)t always make you
stronger. You can
hurt yourself with too much exercise, if you create to the point of
loosing touch with reality… THink vangogh… you can always overdo it,
no matter what but again this is a matter of perspcetive. On of the
reasons I hole back in my creative process is that fear of loosing
myself in my art and being unable to come back. I have felt the pull of
that world, I have stepped into it… I donâEUR(tm)t want to loose
myself… bu
there I go again, why canâEUR(tm)t that be a part of who I am without it
being
a negative thing? Because of societal views. break out of the box you
were raised in and see something from a different point of view… that
was not direce at you, but rather society.

I do not question another artists process to tell them something is
wrong, only to ask why, it is important to ask yourself why and find the
answer…. Why is the deformed one a man, not that itâEUR(tm)s wrong,
but know
why it has to be that way, rather than taking the cop out and saying, it
just has to be… there is a process there you are not realizing

The camera, was fine until it fell off willows arm into the river.
IâEUR(tm)m
have no idea whatâEUR(tm)s wrong with it, itâEUR(tm)s a canon power shot
and I used it
a pretty good bit for awhile… baby is just to big to take out
sometimes. I have a friend who owns a pawn shop, IâEUR*ll ask if he has
anything in that pretty cheap… alot of times heâEUR(tm)ll give me stuf
for
free if they donâEUR(tm)t think theyâEUR(tm)ll make any money on it.
ever consider
doing video work? I might have a video camera you could hold onto for
awhile

Ok in the several hours since I started this email I had to do testing
for the NC writing test… and since I only do special modifications I
only had one student. So while she was tested I drew up two sketches,
one of your idea, one of mine. I wonâEUR(tm)t be able to show you either
till I
can get home and take a pic or scan an upload to the inernet, but still
I have to images to show you later…

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after they get it they never try to paid what we agree… not my cup of =
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